Today’s podcast is with my friend Pastor Matt Roden. Matt has served large multi-site churches and smaller churches as well. He draws out lessons from both contexts that help me think in a more focused way about the mission of the church in North America. You can find that conversation here:

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Matt draws out lessons from both contexts that help me think in a more focused way about the mission of the church in North America. 

Mega Church vs Small Church - Insights from Matt Roden

July 8, 2021